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  1. yunatsudeki

    yunatsudeki Donkey Kong

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    À thì ra là bà Lightning hận thằng em rể vì đã không chụp kịp con Serah để nó hóa đá. :-w Mà Sazzu và Jill là ai thế nhỉ ? :-/
     
  2. Nghệt

    Nghệt Space Marine Doomguy

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    Nếu thế thì tớ nghỉ đek làm fan Snow nữa =)

    Đầy đứa như thế =) Vốn ghét mẫu hình nhân vật như thằng Squall =)
     
  3. Kira_Shinigami

    Kira_Shinigami The Pride of Hiigara Lão Làng GVN

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    là lão Sazh & chị Jihl ấy

    mấy tờ scan đc mấy bạn bên FF-XIII.net dịch rồi này , thanks

    Scan 2
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    - Stuff about Serah! First header describe her as a strong and determined woman who doesn't give up in the face of troubles.
    - Caption for first photo reads: "Serah says to Vanille that whatever difficulties she faces can be overcome. You can tell by the look in her eyes the silent but resolved determination that she possesses." Wow, looks like Serah's an optimistic but tough girl!
    - In her character description below her name next to her render, it merely confirms that she's Lightning's sister, and Snow's fiance. But also talks about how she has a caring heart, and lives by her belief that "One must be independent and be able to stand on one's own two feet".
    - The paragraph next to that talks about what you can expect in all 17 of these pages. Expect mroe about Serah, more about the summoning system, as well as an interview with the developers, whom I presume and Kitase and Motomu. And it also promises "new secrets", haha. Well, leave all that to my fellow translators! =)
    - The paragraph at the bottom talks about Serah and Vanille's relationship. "Serah, Lightning and Snow live in a marine coastal town, and here in this picture (above), Serah and Vanille are talking in a place that Serah personally loves to frequent." It then goes on to talk about how it is evident that they are both good friends, especially since they're of the same age, but as trailers (I presume TGS) have shown of Vanille grabbing Serah and apologizing profusely while sobbing, it is unsure of how their relationship develops or is affected.[/spoil]

    Scan 3
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    - Ooh, the topmost paragraph reveals a lot about Snow and Lightnings relationship! Firstly, the headlines talk about how they have similar good feelings and concern for Serah, but are opposed and have different ways of thinking. The paragraph proper then talks about how Snow and Serah are engaged, but Lightning disapproves of their engagement. In fact, she hates it when Snow tries to call her "Big Sis" (i.e. nee-san)! (Haha, looks as if Snow is purposely trying to rub it in!) Then, the paragraph goes on to reveal why Lightning opposes their marriage so strongly! "It's because Lightning was once part of the military of Sanctum, and was once involved in dealing with the resistance group Nora, of which Snow is the leader." AHA! (But still, doesn't really explain much except that they were once at odds...)
    - The bottom part of the page is an interview with Nomura! The questions and answers are below:
    Q1: What's the concept design for Serah?
    Nomura: I can't reveal too much because the concept that the developers gave me had a lot of underlying secrets. However, I can tell you that what was most important was that she had to be cute. And that she had to fit her role of being Lightning's sister and Snow's fiance.
    Q2: For Serah, what main design points did you focus on?
    Nomura: I guess that would have to be her hair.I got my inspiration for Serah's side ponytail from an action actress I saw with a similar hairstyle. The impression stuck in my mind, and I knew I wanted to give one character a similar hairstyle. Otherwise, I wanted Serah's silhouette to be similar to Lightning's, so I added curls to her ponytail. The same goes for her accessories, which are similar to Lightning's.
    Q3: How about the concept for Hope's character?
    Nomura: If I had to summarize, I'd say that he's a well-brought up, refined, and passionate boy. At first, I had given him a more ruffian look, but after considering the appearances of the rest of the characters, I decided to give him a more "pretty boy" kind of style.
    Q4: Just like Q2 earlier; what main design points did you focus on for Hope?
    Nomura: At first the developers and I sat down and decided if we wanted the main character to be blond, but since we decided on strawberry blond for Lightning, we decided that Hope's character would fit being blond best. Also, perhaps one focal point of Hope's design is the use of patterns, and one good example is his scarf.[/spoil]

    Scan 4
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    - The paragraph on top talks about how this page is going to be about the scene where Snow and Serah are in the sky on a hovercraft with the fireworks as a backdrop!
    - The first photo and caption just talk about how both of them are enjoying the time spent together.
    - The paragraph on the side reveals nothing much, except about how the two of them are deeply in love, and questions how long their happiness will last. Seems to foreshadow future strife...
    - Then below that there's an explanation of their engagement necklaces, which was a gift from Snow to Serah.
    - The bottom most teaser is the most interesting on this page! Motomu or Kitase (one of them) reveals more about Serah and Lightning's daily life! As mentioned earlier, they live together in a house in same marine coastal town. Everyday, Lightning leaves for work in the Sanctum military, though it's not really an army military kind of job, but can be more likened to police work! (Direct translation: Area Police, whatever that means...) As for Serah, she's having a "gap year"; having a vacation period before her university starts! And when questioned if Serah will join your party, Motomu replies that "It's... A Secret." =D Finally, it's also revealed that Snow and Serah have been dating for less than two years. (Perhaps that's a reason for Lightning's disapproval!)[/spoil]

    Scan 5
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    - First picture has an interesting caption... Snow says to Serah; "Let's come and see the fireworks again tomorrow, OK?", to which Serah is left speechless for a while, tears brimming in her eyes, and finally replies, "Thank you."
    - In the "Report 1" at the right, is just an update about the trailer that was seen at the Premiere Party. Which included the revealing of Sazh's summon, the mysterious Sanctum L'cie, and.... HOPE'S FATHER. So that's who the guy revealed in that screenshot was!
    - The paragraph in the middle reveals more about the fireworks festival that is the backdrop for the scene. Apparently, it's an annual festival held in their marine coastal town, where they light fireworks. There's a romantic legend behidn the fireworks; that whoever sees them and makes a wish will have their wish come true, and that is the reason why many people come to see the fireworks each year. Serah clearly is seen making a wish in the trailer, but what wish could it be?
    - The paragraph also describes the picture to the right; clearly Serah is not wearing her necklace yet, so Snow must have given it to her sometime after this event takes place.
    -The caption for the bottom photo is most shocking! It says; "Using a resolved tone, Serah proposes a break-up to Snow. This is a major blow to Snow, and his heart must be severly hurt. What reasons could Serah have?"
    - And the teaser at the bottom of the page talks more about the link between the FFXIII logo and the engagement necklaces. Famitsu asks if there's any link between their similar designs, and Motomu replies; "The logo has a link with the mythology, just keep that in mind for now."[/spoil]

    Scan 6
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    1) And so the happy days come to an end! With Serah being chosen as a Pulse l’Cie, she initiates a breakup with Snow, telling him that she has become the enemy of every human being in Cocoon. Snow tries to make her stay, and gets them engaged despite the truth that he already knows.

    2) A fal’Cie is a special existence that utilizes Crystal as its main form of power,
    with the capability to crystallize water and fire. They too have a mission to achieve, and the l’Cie chosen are their tools to complete their task.[/spoil]

    Scan 7
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    3) *compare Serah’s mark with Snow’s; hers has a ‘red eye ball’ at the centre* An l’Cie’s mark will change/evolve as time passes.. When the ‘red eye ball’ starts to open its eye, it means that the l’Cie has already fallen to the state of a Cie Corpse.[/spoil]

    Scan 8
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    4) Serah and Snow head out together to search for Pulse’s faI’Cie for a cure.
    Pulse’s faI’Cie attacks and tries to absorb Serah into itself. Afterwhich, the fal’Cie gets hauled off to Hanged Edge which eventually leads to Snow & co. being exiled off to Pulse.[/spoil]

    Scan 9
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    5) To Cocoon, Crystal is an important source of fuel for their flying ships and machinery. The Sanctum & PSICOM use it to strengthen their monsters.

    6) All I’Cie are doomed to a pitiful end. Regardless of the fact whether you comprehend the vision that depicts your Focus, as long as the time limit is up; the failed ones will end up as Cie Corpse while those who succeeded will become crystals. According to the myth that Snow narrates, it seems that becoming a crystal runs parallel with the meaning of “eternity”.. and it was supposed to be something that humans look forward to very much.. Either way, it is impossible for them to remain as “human beings”.

    7) Snow & co. ends up chasing after Serah all the way into the body of the fal’Cie, but were unable to stop her transformation into a crystal. Snow speaks softly to her that he believes she had completed her Focus and that’s why she turning into a crystal. There was no happiness reflected in his eyes, only helplessness and grief.[/spoil]

    Scan 10
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    TP can used for Summons and also to do a stats check about your enemy, whereby you’ll need to exhaust off a certain amount of it in order to activated the above abilities. TP can be obtained depending on your battle performance [i think they’re talking about the 5 stars thingy] and replenished via items as well. Summons will required a lot of TP.
    SP is, in a way, somewhat like a Summons’s HP. It will decrease when attacked + decrease itself as time ticks.. whereby the Summons will go off when SP hits 0.[/spoil]

    Scan 11
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    Upon Summoning, the summoner’s TP gauge will switch to reflect a Drive gauge instead; whereby chaining your attacks will stack the gauge, enabling the summoner to unleash more attacks styles during Drive mode.[/spoil]

    Scan 12
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    Basically about Gestalt/Driving Mode.
    -Even enemies who are usually difficult to deal with become fodder when you use Gestalt mode.

    -Drive gauge(The number at the bottom left of the screen during Gestalt Mode) gets higher as you spend more time in normal mode so it becomes important to decide when you should switch to Gestalt mode.

    -Auto-drive:Attacks are chosen automatically base on the circumstances. Cost will not be reflected on screen.

    -Checkbox: I think I need to look at the earlier pages to figure out what gauge this box is talking about...Too many gauges/bars...

    -Bottom page tidbit about Sazh's summon:Wears red armour and carries a huge sword. Fire element. Changes into a car. Was based on the cars in an old anime named Mahha GoGoGo. Has attacks that are more action-oriented.

    (Didn't do anything about Odin's attacks since the names have been translated before and they sound silly in English when translated directly.)[/spoil]

    Scan 13
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    -Since Shiva Bike's attacks have never been translated I'll try(At least I haven't seen any).
    Wheel Rush, Supu Rush(Not sure what this is), Icicle Turn, Air Edge, Diamond Dust. (Note that Katakana translated are usually effy at best when it comes to names.)

    -Shiva Bike rushes towards enemies at top speed or uses turning to create ice storms. This rough and powerful way of combat fits Snow's passionate character. From what has been seen in the TGS demo, Shiva Bike's attacks are good for area attacks and for larger gropus of enemies. Good also when being surrounded.

    -Final Specials like Odin Horse's Zantentsuken(Might be spelling it wrongly) and Shiva Bike's Diamond Dust have levels.

    -Bottom page Tidbit: Jihl and Yaag are both part of PSICOM but do they know Lightning (who are a prisoner of the Sanctum)? Toriyama says that PSICOM is a special unit so they probably don't know her. However, Sazh and Jihl seems to share some connection.[/spoil]


    Scan 14 & 15
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    Release Date and Theme Song Confirmed.
    Famitsu(F):The release date has finally been confirmed. Information regarding collaborations with Suntory (FFXII Elixer Potion) and other parties are slowly been revealed.
    Kitase (K): Yes. The recent press releases was the beginning of things. We want to hype up the release and increase the overall fervor.

    F: The theme song, that is sang by Sayuri Sugawara, has also been revealed. Maybe you can tell us why you've chosen her?
    K: We used to search for and use great singers who are not well known. We decided to use voice as a criterion this time.
    Toriyama(T): We feel that her voice is the most suitable because it possesses the transparent quality that we needed, a quality that crystals have. Because Masashi Hamauzu is doing both the soundtrack and the theme song, they share the same musical style/them.

    F:Masashi Hamauzu's compositions were performed by a orchastra during the press release.
    K: Because Hamauzu trust Toriyama, the script and musical style is rather uniform.
    T: The score and scenes fit in with each other very well this time. There are many tracks that have been composed for specific scenes. The production process is very similar to TV and movie production. Like Serah's scene. There are many great tracks this time and every one of them can elict some tears.

    The Prologue That Lasts 13 Days
    F: Serah, who was only mentioned before, has finally been revealed officially. What sort of character is she?
    T: She is the first person in Cocoon to become a Pulse Fal'cie l'cie. It is this that brought about the later chain of events.

    F: Does the story begin at the point where she tells Snow about being marked (by a Pulse's Fal'cie)?
    T: No. Firstly, 13 days before the start of the game, Cocoon's society experienced many troubling events. These events happened in various places in Cocoon. Some of these events are known while some remained unknown even though incomplete parts have been shown (This sounds weird because I'm not sure whether he means it is known to players or to the people of Cocoon. Keep in mind that the magazine contains mistakes since they had to translate Japanese to Mandarin Chinese in the first place). We will release web novels that will depict some of these events before the game's release date. The first one should be up during TGS if we're quick enough.

    F: Serah and Vanille look close, did they know each other from before?
    T: They don't go way back and they just got to know each other. But due to being close in age, they can get along with each other. The town (Bo-Dam) that Serah stays in is a vacation spot so all sorts of people visit the place. Snow and the NORA have a beach house here. It's very common for the town's residents to become chummy with the tourists. The fireworks party is the town's largest festival.

    F: That would be the one where Snow was looking at fireworks and said "Is this the legendary fireworks that can grant wishes?" ?
    T: The legend is has the same meaning as the one we have for shooting stars.
    After this, Snow gives Serah the engagement necklace. Even though it was Snow who chose the necklaces, he only bought them after Serah mentioned them. We have plans to release this part of the story on our website.

    F: Lightning seems to oppose Serah and Snow's relationship. Why is it so?
    T: Having lost their parents since young, Serah is more like a daughter (to Lightning) than a sister. If my sister's boyfriend looks like someone who is not dependable, I'll probably object too lol. Also, Snow is a member of NORA, a group that does not want to obey the Sanctum's rule. This also affects Lightning's opinion on him. The web novel will also touch on Lightning and Snow's relationship.

    What It Means To Be Crystalised
    F: In the trailer we see Serah being caught by this liquid. What's happening there?
    T: This is the moment where she gets pulled into the body of Pulse's Fal'cie.
    After this, the Fal'cie gets send to Hanged Edge while Snow and company gets exiled. However, Lightning and co chase after the Fal'ice and hence arrive at Hanged Edge like we see in the ACC demo.

    F: Did Lightning witness Serah being absorbed into the Pulse Fal'cie?
    T: No she didn't but she heard it from Snow. Because he doesn't know how to ease his words, he tells everything as it is to Lightning lol.

    F: So that's what happened. So Lightning's departure from Sanctum happens after this?
    T: That's right. She left after making her mind to protect Serah. Even though we can say that Lightning is a strong woman, she can go overboard when it comes to prtecting Serah and she can over tax herself. We can also say that Serah is Lightning's spiritual pillar/support.

    F: A l'cie becomes "an inmortalised crystal after completing his or her Focus?
    T: We have people saying that the act of being crystalised equates to becoming an inmortal but to Lightning and the people of Cocoon in general, the process is no different from death. Only someone like Snow, who is a romantic who likes fantasy, would see it in that positive light. (Now on page 15)

    F: Since Serah is now a crystal, does that mean the she has completed her Focus?
    T: Serah herself is not sure whether she has done her Focus so the people around wouldn't know either. Everyone has their own explanation as to why she became a crystal and they often argue over their own ideas.

    F: In the latest trailer, we almost see a scene of Dajh(Sazh's son) being turned into a crystal.
    T: The awaken of the Pulse Fal'cie means that the number of Pulse l'ice increases. Dajh becoming a l'cie is also one of those events. There are no special reasons for one to be chosen; the Fal'cie merely choose those who are near. So we have cases of children becoming l'cie also. But then again those who are unsuitable becomes Cie Corpses immediately. Because Dajh is young, he has no idea what has happened. This is why he doesn't turn immediately. Those who know bits and pieces become Cie Corpses quickly because of their fear. The speed at which one becomes a Cie corpse is related to one's psychological state.[/spoil]

    nguồn: FinalFantasy-XIII.net
     
  4. Oswald

    Oswald Fire in the hole!

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    ==> Serah đã chít ... hoặc linh hồn tồn tại mãi mãi dưới 1 hình thức khác. Có thể các Eidolon (Summons) trong FF XIII chính là các I'Ciel từng bị biến thành Crystal.
     
  5. Poupou

    Poupou Mr & Ms Pac-Man

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    Serah mặc cái váy đỏ làm tôi liên tưởng đến mấy em học sinh trong JAV, thật là tội lỗi quá đi...
     
  6. yunatsudeki

    yunatsudeki Donkey Kong

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    Cốt truyện story rất hay. Chỉ mới đọc thoáng qua nhưng cũng thấy tôi nghiệp cho cả 3 đứa. Khong biết vào Game thì còn buồn thế nào đây :(
    Dịch sơ sơ cho mấy Bác làm biếng đọc :

    Hóa ra Lightning không cho Snow và Serah cưới nhau vì ̀Lightning ở trong quân đội Sanctum đối đầu với nhóm Nora do thằng em rể cầm đầu :))
    Nhưng cũng tội thằng Snow . Biết trước Serah sẽ bị chọn biến thành Pulse I'se mà vẫn cưới :|

    Ở Cocoon Ai bị chọn thành Pulse : Có nghĩa là sẽ bị biến thành quả tim sống trong Crystal. Mà Crystal giống như một nguồn năng lương hay xăng để vận hành máy móc các tàu chiến. Quân đội Sanctum mà Lightning đã từng ở trong đấy sử dụng Crystal để nâng cấp quái vật
    => Và Serah đã được chọn biến thành quả tim cho nó
    => Ác thật . Sao không chọn đứa khác mà chọn ngay em này :-w

    Sazzu ( Thằng châu phi ) và Jill dường như có một mối quan hệ nào đó
    Con trai của Sazzu đã từng được chọn là Pulse i'se. bị biến thành Crystal


    Còn mấy cái chi tiết nhỏ. Nhưng nói chung các Bác tự tìm hiểu tiếp . Dài quá ngại dịch ;))
     
  7. Oswald

    Oswald Fire in the hole!

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    Sai! Con trai thằng Sazh là bị biến thành I'Ciel do nằm trong vùng "phủ sóng" cận kề Fal'Ciel. Thằng nhóc ko bị biến thành Ciel Corpse là do nó còn con nít ... chưa hiểu chuyện + ko sợ hãi gì nên còn tồn tại đến lúc thành crystal ==> Có bị biến thành Ciel Corpse ko phụ thuộc rất lớn vào tâm lý.
    Khi dấu hình xâm của 1 I'Ciel "mở mắt" thì ... người đó sẽ chít (Serah bị dính).
    Chỉ có thằng Snow thuộc tuýp lãng mạng nên nó nói việc bị crystal chỉ là đến với sự bất tử hay vĩnh cữu mà thôi :|.
     
  8. yunatsudeki

    yunatsudeki Donkey Kong

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    Sai gì mà sai
    Không có lý do đặc biệt nào để được chọn làm Pulse I'ce gì cả. Con Serah cũng vậy. Thằng nhóc Dahj cũng vậy. Fal'cie chỉ chọn đứa nào ở gần đấy thôi.
    Còn thằng nhóc đó thì như Bác nói . Vì nó quá nhỏ chẳng biết chuyện gì cả nên chưa bị biến ngay còn ai có tâm lý biết trước và sợ hãi như Serah thì biến thành Crystal rất nhanh
    Sớm hay muộn thì nó cũng bị biến thôi. [-X
     
  9. Oswald

    Oswald Fire in the hole!

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    "Chọn" là có sự xem xét, chọn lọc trong đó ... còn đây nó bị biến là do nằm vùng "phủ sóng" của Fal'Ciel (ngẫu nhiên ko chọn lựa) ==> sai là đúng rồi.
    Dù sao cũng cám ơn bác đã tốn công dịch ra tiếng việt cho mọi người ::).

    Chỉ mong Serah ko chít ... hoặc Serah trở thành Final Summon của một ai đó trong FFXIII :'>.
     
  10. Malice

    Malice Legend of Zelda

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    Có thể cuối game Serah sẽ sống lại và điều khiển đc , hoặc cũng có thể em ấy chết lun:(
     
  11. Kira_Shinigami

    Kira_Shinigami The Pride of Hiigara Lão Làng GVN

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    mới tìm đc cái này ,char thứ 6 sử dụng spear

    mà mình thì mong ending game này Lightning sẽ chết :'>
     
  12. Uchida.Fin

    Uchida.Fin Youtube Master Race

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    =))=))=))=))=)) thế mới là đàn ông- IT'S MAN =))=))=))
     
  13. gaconnicky

    gaconnicky Mr & Ms Pac-Man

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    cậu ác quá đấy Kira ạ ! :">
    nhưng nghĩ lại thì ending như thế cũng đc , Lightning vì bảo vệ em gái mình mà chết :(
    p/s : sao lâu quá ko thấy trailers hả trời :((
     
  14. lovely_ cat

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    vậy 2 chị em teo hết ah =)) ko biêt biến thành crystal chữa dc ko nhỉ :|, chứ sống bất tử như Vin với Luc buồn chết

    chết đâu :|

    thì ra light tức vì em serah bị biến thành crystal nên rebel :))

    có điều ko rõ là Fal'cie bốc đại đứa nào đó, người nào ko hợp thì thành cie corpse, nhưng serah đã là cie corpse lại thành crystal dc??? :-?
     
  15. Kira_Shinigami

    Kira_Shinigami The Pride of Hiigara Lão Làng GVN

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    mới thấy đoạn hội thoại của Hope & Lightning , ko biết có chưa
    [video]KXXpyplJR3c&feature[/video]

    lightning cười này , xinh nhở
    [​IMG]

    có j` ác đâu , mình thích thế đấy , cho nó có tí bi kịch ấy mà :'> hay thế còn j` :'>
    trailer thì sắp có rồi ...lên official site để biết thêm
    :'>

    ko biết char thứ 6 là nam hay nữ nhỉ , dùng spear chắc là nam giống Cid :'>
     
  16. DHNH

    DHNH Youtube Master Race

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    bà con để ý ko, trong các trailer và cắt cảnh thì L với Snow có đeo dây chuyền, nhưng trong các wallpaper cũng như trang official thì không. ( mà sao Snow lại không đeo cái sợi đính hôn với Sera nhỉ, lạ quá...)
     
  17. lovely_ cat

    lovely_ cat Guest

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    sau này 2 đứa mới đính hôn, tuỳ mốc thời gian ::)
     
  18. lazaruschild

    lazaruschild The Warrior of Light

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    sao mong FFXIII ra quá , để biết cốt tuyện với summon của nó là gì quá :((
    mà tháng 10 release phải hok nếu tui nhớ ko lầm :|
     
  19. lovely_ cat

    lovely_ cat Guest

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    main story có roài kìa :| uh release bản... jap :))
     
  20. Oswald

    Oswald Fire in the hole!

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    Tui thì mong cả đám chít hết :'>.
     
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