[French Protests] Red vs Yellow ( Lấy độc trị độc )

ChocoboLinh · 4/12/18

"The rise of Kong San"

lang băm · 4/12/18

Rain_Dance nói: ↑

Đoán coi ai vote cho Trump
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Nó có ở mỹ đéo đâu

creativealtair · 4/12/18

NguoiMytramlang nói: ↑

máy chém hình như cũng do một bác sĩ pháp chế ra thì phải
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Joseph-Ignace Guillotin, together with German engineer Tobias Schmidt, built a prototype for the guillotine.
Pháp, Đức bắt tay

Diệp Thanh · 4/12/18

ủa sao bọn Tây lông không cấm cửa hẳn dân đạo Hồi nhỉ

hanhnn13 · 4/12/18

Diệp Thanh nói: ↑

ủa sao bọn Tây lông không cấm cửa hẳn dân đạo Hồi nhỉ
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cấm thì sao thực hiện được lời tiên tri vanga

sai3000 · 4/12/18

creativealtair · 4/12/18

tiện thể, BBC đang làm lại Les Misérables

Kentiny · 4/12/18

Oh phim nói full Engrish oh

quanghuy_1993 · 4/12/18

creativealtair nói: ↑

tiện thể, BBC đang làm lại Les Misérables

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BBC làm có khác. Da đen làm chủ nô, da trắng làm nô lệ

creativealtair · 4/12/18

quanghuy_1993 nói: ↑

BBC làm có khác. Da đen làm chủ nô, da trắng làm nô lệ
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thấy có cmt này trên vid, không biết đúng hay sai

You do realise that France in this period had a ethnically diverse population, right? (Well actually not at all but compared to what people think it is, ie having anyone non white living there. I will never understand how people acknowledge that there was slavery in the 1700 and 1800s but then if they show up in any other form ie. free, which many were, it’s historically inaccurate or whatever.) As an example, the writer of another very famous French book as well as the contemporary and friend of Victor Hugo, The Three Musketeers, Alexander Dumas was mixed race. It would be historically inaccurate to pretend that everyone in France was white.

Now is it accurate for Javert to be black and in his position? Honestly it’s unlikely but not impossible (say, as unlikely as one of France’s greatest novelists being mixed race?). Making him black adds to his story of having to work his way out from the gutter as he would have had to fight against racial prejudice and his poverty, in a time period where slavery was legal. It is possible that Javert had a wealthy white father and black mother and maybe that allowed him to reach that position. Like Dumas’ father (also mixed race) joined the military and became a general; Javert the police (which I hate to inform everyone wasn’t exactly prestigious, being a prison guard and an officer are not well, being a famous novelist or general). In my opinion it makes his hatred of Jean Valjean more intense because he is a man who was gifted with several privileges that he did not have and still choosing to be a criminal. It only adds more to his possible back story and makes the character more fleshed out, which in a novel that has been adapted this many times is an interesting take on the character. (I mean, let’s face it there’s like 10 adaptions I can think of so they’ve gotta do something.)

Now someone may correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think Javert’s race is stated in the book? It’s been a while since I’ve read it. EDIT: it’s implied that he’s Roma.

Anyways, people need realise that the exclusion of different races in fiction has lead to a skewered and inaccurate understanding of history.

Putting in non-white characters in randomly in serious productions for the sake of it bugs me as much as anyone else (because any significant change to that character should add to that character and often they’re just shoe horned in without reaping any storytelling benefits from that change which frustrates me to no end) however in this case even if Javert was definitely white in the book I believe the decision would be for the better as it adds another dimension to a character that has had his story done to death so many times ( haha get it? Okay I’ll stop) without any kind of inventiveness or change. It’s also sad that we consider having a non white actor play a non white character inventive but that’s the world we live in. Maybe some day we will seen a Romani actor play the part.

This whole comment was originally a reply but I edited it to make it more general and posted it here because I saw multiple people making the same mistake.

EDIT2: People google is at your fingertips. None of what I’m saying is exactly what you’d call radical. If you don’t believe me you don’t even need to leave YouTube to learn more about these fascinating time periods, the June rebellion and the French Revolution (and the which since you’re looking Les Mis I’m guess that you’re at least a little interested in). I’ve already had someone comment about something that would have taken them one second to search and human stupidity is getting to me.

tl;dr black people are not a modern invention and have been going around doing their thing largely in the background of history. It’s possible that within this fictional world Javert was one of those people.
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yatweii · 4/12/18

À mà lý do Jarvert da đen nè:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ew-les-miserables-series-pledge-take-classic/

The casting, striking in its diversity in comparison with numerous Les Misérables productions featuring white actors in each of the leading roles, follows the BBC’s commitment to ensuring more black and minority ethnic actors are seen on screen: 15 per cent representation by 2020.
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quanghuy_1993 · 4/12/18

creativealtair nói: ↑

thấy có cmt này trên vid, không biết đúng hay sai
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Giải thích như thằng trên youtube thì Javert là Châu Á hay da đỏ còn được nữa nhé

disaster · 4/12/18

Bọn học sinh lại tranh thủ đu theo nữa à Học kỳ trước đã biểu tình một lần rồi. Có trường bọn nó còn lấy bàn ghế chặn hết cửa lớp, đồng loạt nghỉ học, cuối cùng nguyên 1 kỳ đấy trường đóng cửa luôn, đứa nào muốn học phải thi online.H ọc phí rẻ như cho nên nhiều đứa bỏ nguyên 1 năm cũng éo sợ.

Nguyên nhân là do đại học siết đầu vào, ko còn mở rộng cửa cho bọn học dốt nữa nên dỗi

ConChymBay · 4/12/18

https://vnexpress.net/tin-tuc/the-g...-giet-neu-dam-phan-voi-chinh-phu-3848976.html
giảm giá hoặc chiến tranh ,ko có sự lựa chọn ở giữa

_Rain_ · 4/12/18

Phong trào áo vàng, nghe giống giặc khăn vàng nhỉ

934944 · 4/12/18

đại diện phe nó mà nó còn giết

Trái Sầu Riêng · 4/12/18

Hy vọng nước Pháp tiêu trong 1 năm

lifesyle · 4/12/18

yatweii nói: ↑

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À mà lý do Jarvert da đen nè:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ew-les-miserables-series-pledge-take-classic/
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Thì cast Black vào slave , hợp v.. oh wait .

gin-1994 · 4/12/18

Kylo Ren · 4/12/18

creativealtair nói: ↑

tiện thể, BBC đang làm lại Les Misérables

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Haiz chuẩn bị xuất tinh khi thấy Lilly Collin , đến đoạn black Javert thì hết hồn xuất tinh ngược luôn . Thà down bản 1998 của Liam Neeson với Geoffey Rush ôn lại kỉ niệm còn hơn coi cái thứ quái thai này

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[French Protests] Red vs Yellow ( Lấy độc trị độc )

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[French Protests] Red vs Yellow ( Lấy độc trị độc )

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lang băm You Must Construct Additional Pylons Waiting to respawn

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