IT - career path

Darkwolf.vn · 29/1/23

Mình Java đây nhưng FAANG nghe hay pv live coding = algorithm nên éo chơi nhé

EviLxX · 29/1/23

Ngu alg có apply đc FE ko?
Mà chưa đủ trình apply FAANG. Hóng review kinh nghiệm.

PDTP · 31/1/23

Thấy bảo là fake post rồi. Bọn Netflix không có plan tuyển dụng như thế

Catnarok · 31/1/23

Preface:

I have waited about 6 years to post this. I read and bookmarked several posts like this one to motivate myself and get advice from people like me.

Warning: This is not a post about how I went from making 20k to 200k in 6 months while working full time. It's far more achievable and probably slower than you might expect.

Getting Started:

At 30 years old, research led me to Software Development. The pay and WLB were both far beyond what I had achieved up to this point in my life.

I thought at the time that I would learn how to make mobile apps for Android. I started learning Java on codeacademy.com. This was a long time ago, the site has had a complete overhaul. I cannot speak of it's current state. I learned enough to gain a bit of confidence and I was sure I would become a Software Developer.

I was working full time in construction. Working construction is hard. Up at 5AM long commutes, hard work. I was never going to motivate myself. That's why I enrolled in community college. I was making 48k at the time. Luckily I dropped out of college a long time ago and actually had credits for some of my general education. I found that I could complete my Associates degree in about two years while working full time.

Courses I took (not sure it's that important):

Java, C++, SQL, PHP, Microsoft Access, Linux, HTML/CSS

Making a pivot:

After some exposure to a few different languages and reading through different forums, including this one, I decided Web Development was the shortest path to success. I stand by this advice. When I took PHP in college this became even more clear. Weeks and weeks into Java and C++ we were printing stars **** to the console. With PHP everything was tangible. The browser provided enough that I could see something substantial in minutes, not hours.

I learned HTML/CSS dead last on this list. If I could go back I'd definitely learn this first. I was about to get my AS and decided that I needed to learn JavaScript, which I would need to learn on my own.

Learning Outside of School:

freecodecamp.org to be honest I haven't used it much in the past few years but for me it was the single best resource. I have heard great things about the Odin Project, but I cannot vouch for it.

The Shit Hit the Fan:

My boss in construction caught word that I recently got my AS and was interested in making a career change. He fired me immediately (although he knew I'd been in school). My wife and I both had family in California. We picked up and moved in with her family. Things were pretty bad at this point.

I was now in Fresno with the goal of getting my first job in development. There's a company in Fresno (and now the rest of the country) called Bitwise (bitwiseindustries.com). Without going into too much detail, their philosophy is that underprivileged communities can teach themselves to code and improve their community by brining higher paying jobs. Anyway, it was the only place locally that I knew I could talk to other people learning and take Javascript / Angular classes for $250 for a six week class.

Sleeping on my sister-in-laws spare mattress made me the most motivated student at Bitwise. I was that annoying guy who wanted to meet everyone and talk about code all day to anyone. When a part time position was posted in the Bitwise slack. I was surely the first person to respond.

My First Job:

Days away from going back to work in construction, I took a job offer that was now full time for $3,000/month.

I was hired as a "Developer Lead" basically a large Silicon Valley web agency had most of their work done in India. It was my job to understand what was being made and communicate with clients. I was not on the hook for any code, but I was able to ease into it as I felt comfortable.

Pay Raises/Promotions:

Apparently I was pretty good at being a Dev Lead. I went from $36k, to $48k in a matter of months. Then the company my boss did all his work for hired me directly (everyone was cool with this) for $58,000/year.

I know this is not good money, but remember I'm living at my sister-in-laws house and I've almost doubled my pay in 10 months while learning a lot.

There's a bit of falling out, a few other guys leave, I ask for more money, now I'm making $75,000/year. I am suddenly the top dog and living up to expectations (yes 75k is low).

One year after 75K comes 85k. Then after about 6 months I was promoted to Development Experience Manager and making 92k. Keep in mind I'm still doing the same job I started doing for $3,000/year.

What about writing code?

Right. I want to write code, not lead an offshore team. I had been studying React in my free time for about 3 years now.

A designer who had left our company a year or so ago hit me up out of nowhere. She asked if I was interested in working at a startup as a React developer. I had just got my promotion, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity.

Two quick interviews later and I was a Software Engineer making $125,000/year. After 90 days I felt comfortable enough to make this post.

Key Takeaways:

Learn early on what you really want to do.

Take a crappy job if you can afford to.

Study in your free time.

Make connections wherever possible.

Soft skills and networking are underrated.
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đọc trên reddit. Từ thợ hồ lên dev
Cố lên chiaki

haiduong87 · 1/2/23

Soft skills and networking are underrated.
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Chuẩn nè, có soft skill chắc ko combat với leader trong thời gian thử việc âu

???:D??? · 1/2/23

Catnarok nói: ↑

đọc trên reddit. Từ thợ hồ lên dev
Cố lên chiaki
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Văn mẫu ver Engrisk?

IT vua nghề

thanhlongvn · 1/2/23

haiduong87 nói: ↑

Chuẩn nè, có soft skill chắc ko combat với leader trong thời gian thử việc âu
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Vl khịa xuyên topic

haiduong87 · 1/2/23

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Vl khịa xuyên topic
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tưởng bài đó trong topic này, hóa ra khum phải

thanhlongvn · 1/2/23

haiduong87 nói: ↑

tưởng bài đó trong topic này, hóa ra khum phải
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haiduong87 · 1/2/23

thanhlongvn nói: ↑

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Gin Melkior · 1/2/23

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Văn mẫu ver Engrisk?

IT vua nghề
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có chatgpt rồi chắc thất nghiệp hết á

jumper · 1/2/23

Gin Melkior nói: ↑

có chatgpt rồi chắc thất nghiệp hết á
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Từ code sang low code thôi
Senior hơi khó khăn thôi

Catnarok · 1/2/23

vừa bị nắm đầu bắt lead front end. front end viết bằng angular mà mình thì dân react cả đời chưa động vô angular bao giờ
Sợ bị tụi nó khinh

haiduong87 · 1/2/23

Catnarok nói: ↑

vừa bị nắm đầu bắt lead front end. front end viết bằng angular mà mình thì dân react cả đời chưa động vô angular bao giờ
Sợ bị tụi nó khinh
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lên chức lên lương, ngon

Catnarok · 1/2/23

haiduong87 nói: ↑

lên chức lên lương, ngon

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Lên lương khỉ trong team có mỗi mình là có title sr nên nó nắm đầu bắt làm

chức giữ nguyên lương giữ nguyên trách nhiệm tăng

Tháng trước còn lên gvn chém gió cả ngày giờ chắc làm tới tối

hell_angel7602 · 1/2/23

FAANG thì vô làm bài như hồi đi học với thêm 1 round system design thôi. Có lần pv thằng ml tàu khựa kia nó ko giới thiệu tên nó, ko hỏi mình là ai luôn. Vô nó quăng cái link bài cho, kêu làm đi nó ngồi ngó.

rongdoVN · 1/2/23

Tũn Tùn Tụt nói: ↑

Nhớ huyền thoại ôm cái web e-commerce blazor đã go-live 2 năm cũng outsource từ tụi Ấn. Nát vkl nát, đặt tên đúng ngu, structure đéo theo gì cả, thậm chí còn cả Page với Class weather forecast từ example.

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hồi trước học cái framework blazor, xem tut trên youtube toàn mấy cha ấn dạy, giọng đọc đúng oải

đó giờ xem tut nào mà cứ thấy ấn dạy là dọt, còn nếu nó có đầy đủ thông tin mình cần thì tắt mẹ tiếng mở sub xem

à tiện trong đây có anh em nào chuyên reactjs hok nhỉ cho mình học hỏi tý exp, mới nhảy từ blazor qua

thanhlongvn · 2/2/23

Catnarok nói: ↑

vừa bị nắm đầu bắt lead front end. front end viết bằng angular mà mình thì dân react cả đời chưa động vô angular bao giờ
Sợ bị tụi nó khinh
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Angular typescript hay AngularJS á

Catnarok · 2/2/23

thanhlongvn nói: ↑

Angular typescript hay AngularJS á
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Thấy mấy file ts chắc typescript.

levis_reskool · 2/2/23

Catnarok nói: ↑

Lên lương khỉ trong team có mỗi mình là có title sr nên nó nắm đầu bắt làm

chức giữ nguyên lương giữ nguyên trách nhiệm tăng

Tháng trước còn lên gvn chém gió cả ngày giờ chắc làm tới tối
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Nghe giống leader cũ của mình vậy. Lúc staffing cho project mới có mỗi nó đang rảnh và title senior nên bắt làm leader. Xong nó làm hông nổi, chế report, xin vacation 3 tuần rồi bỏ chạy luôn.

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