Thảo luận trong 'Âm nhạc' bắt đầu bởi Little_Tiger_, 10/9/09.
=) cái tên hình nói lên rồi
Đoán chắc là GD luôn
Luật plagiarism đâu phải do 1 mình Sony quyết định? =) YG chắc tính im lặng để chó sủa cứ sủa, GD cứ tiếp tục quảng bá cho HB, còn muốn lôi nhau ra toàn thì cứ việc Nếu Sony muốn YG nổi tiếng hơn và rắc rối =)
Dù gì "Sony" ở đây cũng chỉ là 1 chi nhánh bên Korea, mà tớ nghe nói Bài Right Round do tới 4 công ty bên Korea giữ copyright, sợ gì chúng nó?
YG chính thức trả lời Sony về vụ việc "Plagiarism"!
Original letter from Yang Hyun Seok:
Hi, It's Yang Hyun-Seok.
For the past few months, there were way too many rumours and misunderstandings regarding YG Entertainment. Frankly speaking, we kept our words, because we did not think it was right to defend against every single rumours. I am feeling deeply sorry for burdening you with our silence, and decided to explain ourselves.
I will answer the questions as if we were in an interview setting.
There has been an issue of plarigiarism regarding G-Dragon's solo album title song, Heartbreaker. How come YG has not released an official statement regarding this issue?
Apart from the part of this issue, as a person who loves music, and as a producer who is taking part in improving popular music industry, I apologize from deep below. The reason why YG and G-Dragon did not release a statement up till now, is because we heard that the publishing companies have sent the music file to the original composer, and we have been waiting for a reply.
We did not think it was right to release our opinion before the composers.
It was broadcast on “News Magazine 2580 (시사매거진 2580)” that Sony ATV has sent a warning to YG entertainment. What is YG's response?
First of all, we are very upset towards Sony ATV. Everything they do, they try to justify it in the media as an official statement. I do not know whether they sent the warning to YG or they sent it to broadcast it in the media in the first place.
To the makers of music, the word ‘plarigiarism' represents the worst honour. Even if the composers say ‘it isn't plarigiarized', it remains as unhealed deep wounds to those involved. In case of “Heartbreaker”, the other publishing companies owning 90% of the rights have remained silent, whereas Sony, owning 10% of the rights, have released their “official statement” on the media.
A few days ago, a lawyer from Sony ATV was interviewed with “News magazine 2580″, and told that they have sent a warning to YG entertainment. The only thing YG is concerned about, is that the public is thinking as if YG has been sued from the composers and YG is in a deep trouble. Contrary to the public's belief, the warning Sony ATV sent to YG is nothing but mere document they could send hundreds of copies per day. It contained no opinions of the composers themselves, it looked like it was quickly made to be broadcast. Apart from the lawyer of Sony ATV, there was the president of Sony ATV Korea, Heo Young-Ah. You need to remember that she appeared as a board member for Korean Music Publishing Association; she concealed her identity as the president of Sony ATV Korea.
Ever since this issue of plarigiarism broke out, YG has never asked for anything from Sony ATV. We did not want to resolve this issue without the public knowing. If there needs to be any legal actions taken, YG will try its best, and is not afraid a bit. However, we have heard that Sony ATV has only two to three people working, and we have been concerned with that. “Are they able to contact the composers directly?” “Are the original composers interested in this matter at all?” For nearly a month, we have not heard a single word from the composers, and we are doubting for a bit.
In the warning Sony ATV sent to YG, there are not only G-Dragon's “Heartbreaker” and “Butterfly”, but also 2NE1's “I Don't Care” and Big Bang's Japanese song, “With U”. We were surprised to see new songs being accused, but we will think it as Sony's new strategies, thinking that accusing G-Dragon alone is not enough. For the cases of “I Don't Care” and “With U”, they are the works of YG's main producers, Teddy and Perry. Teddy has been a producer for 10 years, and Perry has been for 15 years. There are hundreds of songs they composed and produced. Among them, there may be cases they might be accused, but for the past 10 years, there has been any accusations for their works. They remained in YG despite the countless scoutings from others. They have high pride
s of their music, and are hurt deeply from Sony ATV's hush press releases. Their hurt pride is not able to be healed fast, and YG has been accused full of “composers who plarigiarize” in the public. To be honest, I think because they are famous and both producers, Sony ATV is using them for their advantage.
Sony ATV has accused that G-Dragon's “Butterfly” has copied OASIS' “She's Electric” for having similar parts. The musician who appeared on “News magazine 2580″ stated that the parts the two songs are similar are 2 bars, panning approximately 5 seconds. But he also stated that because that is the main sequence melody, it may be a problem.
Now, I'd like to ask you a question as well.
A few days ago, Mariah Carey's new song, “Standing O” teaser was released on youtube. Comparing this song to “I Don't Care”, you get 8 bars of similar parts. It is 24 seconds, instead of 5 seconds, also has it as its major motive, and adding up the similar parts together, results in approximately 1 minute. What is Sony ATV's opinion towards this song? I don't know, but I am sure that you can't easily say that Mariah Carey has plagiarized 2NE1's song that was released 3 months ago, although it contains longer and clearer motives from “I Don't Care”.
I have thought reversely as well. “What if this was G-Dragon's music? What if it was the other way around?” It is quite scary.
Although embarrassing to admit, the music Sony ATV presented for “I Don't Care”, none of the composers nor myself have heard the song, because it isn't the type of music we listen to in the first place. Upon Sony ATV's standards, if you were to put together pieces of any music together by force, I do not think any music could be innocent in your standards. If protecting the rights of publishers is Sony ATV's job, you should also take a note that other publishers' dignity and rights are just as important.
Because Sony ATV released such rash public statements, YG and G-Dragon had to receive more sarcastic remarks and offensive responses, but we decided not to release our statement towards Sony ATV through the media. It is because we respected your company, NOT because we did not have anything to say. The first and last proposal from YG to Sony ATV, is that please deliver us the opinions from the original composers to YG, and stop releasing unconfirmed statement to the media before anything finalizes. If the 4 songs you warned YG are proved to be innocent in the near-future, you should be prepared to see YG's reaction.
Where does YG stand in this plarigiarism issue?
In my opinion, all the arguments and discussions could be seen different depending on the views and the viewers. So, I cannot explain my personal opinion of whether it was influenced by other songs or not.
However, in the centre of attention, there is “Heartbreaker”. This issue emerged above the surface because it had similar rap-flow as Flo Rida's "Right Round". Right Round is an extremely famous song even in Korea, and recently another Korean artist has sung it with translation, and appeared on the media. It is impossible that the composers at YG and G-Dragon tried to go around their way to plagiarize. It is impossible, because with the internet and all, everything gets revealed quickly.
Many expressed their concerns, “Why did G-Dragon do this? For the rappers who write and rap, it shouldn't be hard to fix a few verses and re-recording”, and “How come did Yang Hyun-Seok, Teddy, Perry and Kush never mention that to G-Dragon?” It isn't because we were trying to fool the public, but the other way around. I did not expect such a stir among the public, and I think I should be 100 folds more responsible than G-Dragon as the executive producer. I am truly sorry to G-Dragon and his fans who are burdened alone.
Any more wrongs from the media and misunderstandings?
YG never released a statement that “Heartbreaker is G-Dragon's solo-composed piece. Would the public like this piece if this was a plarigiarized piece?”. This is absurd and truly psychotic. Due to high interest to Big Bang and 2NE1, there are many unsaid things being reported to the media, and rumours are creating more rumours. Because I do not socialize as much, there are haters and misunderstandings happening frequently.
Recently, KBS Radio boycotted all the YG music from being played on the air, and because 2NE1's manager declined an interview request, one newspaper continuously pours out articles containing some crap about YG. Even yesterday, he wrote that “Yang Hyun-seok is loving his artists in the wrong way”. For the past three months, there are over 30 articles he wrote against YG. I think the saying, ‘you never get tired' suits him for sure. I think it may be because he has too much love and interest towards YG.
Mere entertainment companies can't fight against media corporations. It is also hard to lobby them to put on better articles. I try to think to groom myself first instead of talking badly of others these days.
There are opinions which claim that “the issue has elevated because YG has been covering G-Dragon as a genius composer”. What do you think about this?
The funny thing is, for the past 9 years G-Dragon has resided in YG, YG & I have never/ called him a genius composer. I am known to be cold and objective from my artists. The fans know that I am not that kind of person complementing the artists often. In opposite, the fans were upset because I talked about G-Dragon's collaboration process with others.
There are around 60 songs which G-Dragon took part in composing and writing lyrics. Usually he wrote the lyrics by himself, but when composing music, he collaborated with many people. The reason is because he has been really busy to take time arranging the songs. When G-Dragon was 16 years old, I have used my own personal money to get him some musical gear, and G-Dragon has made many hiphop tracks, but because Big Bang debuted and had rigorous schedule, it had been stopped. I heard that there are 10 people holding license for “Right Round”. It is such an ordinary way of composing music with others.
A few months ago, it is important to be able to arrange songs you have composed, but it is also important to make the melodies and lyrics, and designing the structure of the song as a whole. They are important because they cannot be only learned. You need that sense of gift for that part.
The term ‘genius' does not suit the 22-year-old composer, and nor does he want it. The reason why so many people have their hopes for him, is not because he is a genius, but because he has his unique style and sense towards music. Extraordinary 13-year-old boy has become the G-Dragon of today, and people see him in the long run and in his potential from today.
There are sayings that this issue is part of the marketing for YG.
First of all, YG is not that clever to come up with a marketing plan like this. Especially for G-Dragon, he was receiving enough attention as the leader of a famous idol group in Korea, and for releasing his ever-first solo album. He is even cutting off the appearance on the stage…
There are also rumours that you are having troubles with one broadcasting company, because your artists are not appearing on the stage.
Whenever I hear about these rumours, I feel bad towards the broadcasting company. I think this was derived because of YG's marketing scheme of appearing only 1 show per week. YG is only concerned about the best program for its artists, we do not try to make better connection with the broadcasting companies. We are not ignoring the broadcasting company, nor does the company boycotting the appearance of YG artists. In the eyes of broadcasting company, there are way too many artists wanting to appear the show. However, 2NE1 and G-Dragon has not requested to be on the show… It is only fair that they do not need to cast YG artists from their side.
Again, I apologize for any misunderstandings.
Now, the good news
This weekend, we are filming Tae Yang's music video “Where U At” with Seo Hyung-Seung PD. We know that his promotion period was extremely short. We are trying to come up with ideas for longer promotion period. It is being planned that the song will be released with a music video as digital media first. The estimated date for Tae Yang's full volume cd is still to be announced. I will keep you posted about Tae Yang soon.
On the first weekend of December, there will be G-Dragon's solo concert. It will be held in Olympic Gymnastics Stadium, and there will be two concerts. A detailed notice will be posted up soon, and the ticketing will be done after the Chinese New Year.
That's it for now. I will try to come back only with the happy news next time.
2009 09 24
Đấy? Bây giờ lũ Sony có dám to mồm bảo Diva Mariah Carey đạo từ album IDC của 2NE1 không? LOL!!!
Đây là bài Standing O của MC, các cậu nghe thử xem giống bài nào nhất
Big Bang in ASF:
Thiếu mất Dea, giọng GD sao mình thấy hơi hơi khác
Như thường lệ, đại ca GD lại win Mu Bank
Hôm nay lượn krfilm thì thấy mấy bài phỏng vấn hay lắm :d LT copy cho cả nhà xem
Cái mỏ , cái mỏ !:-*
Các bác V.I.P bên này ít nhể ! Thêm 1 tay 1 chân xôm tụ há !
P/S : Yong NEVER STEALS !
Dăm hôm nữa cái áo này lại HOT cho coi, GD đã mặc là toàn châu Á thèm !
Mọi người có bản HD big bang hát lies và gara gara go ở cái Asian Festiavl ko, share mình với
sweet sorrow ...... sooooooooooo good
Các đồng chí cho hỏi phát: ở HQ đc phép hát nhép a`? Có đứa em thích BB, G-Dragon, suốt ngày bật, nhưng thấy mấy cái live thằng này hát mấy bài trong album solo thấy toàn nhép hay sao ấy , nhiều đoạn ko hát (miệng ko mấp máy, mic ko để gần miệng) mà tiếng vẫn vang lên
Thường thỉ mấy đoạn bè thì mới để máy phát ra , chứ như bài HB mà nhảy nhót như thế , đoạn nào cũng hát tất thì hơi đâu mà chịu nỗi .
Thật không còn từ ngữ nào để diie64n tả những nỗ lực của Hottest nhằm mang Jay trở về so amazing~
Nhìn các Hottest mới chợt nghĩ, nếu chẳng may một ngày nào đó BB có sự cố gì (Cái này nói vui thôi đừng ai nói tớ nói xui ) , thật không tưởng tượng được các VIPs tại mỗi quốc gia sẽ làm gì
Theo luật của UERO ,
Nếu phát hiện đạo nhạc thì các giải thưởng bị tước , cấm biểu diễn 1 thời gian ( tùy mức độ vi phạm ) , đăng tin xin lỗi trên các tờ báo lớn . Còn nếu chính thức bị kiện lên tòa thì rất nhiều chuyện nữa sẽ xảy ra
Nếu phát biểu ca sĩ này đạo nhạc các kiểu mà sai sự thật thì phải xin lỗi + etc ... Tiêu biểu vụ Avril bị con gì đó tố để nổi tiếng ấy .
Còn đọc comment của các bé trên k14 mà buồn cười :" Sony kiện G-Dragon với 2NE1 để nổi tiếng " . Các bé cứ làm như Sony là bọn chuyên chế lốp xe ấy
Xin lỗi chứ cậu đọc Thư của chủ tịch Yang gửi cho Sony chưa mà nói ?
Còn đám kênh 14 thì ở đây coi như là trash , nên đám comment trong đó cũng là trash thôi, không đáng xem đâu
Clip 1 anh nước ngoài cover Heartbreaker bằng ENG version
Đọc rồi hay chưa đọc thì sao ? Tôi nêu ra luật về bản quyền âm nhạc của EURO chứ tôi bảo G-Dragon đạo nhạc à ? Cậu có đọc không vậy ?
Lyric đây nè bạn
À Nếu bị catch thì chắc chắn prize sẽ bị thu lại là điều chắc chắn
Nhưng cái công ty Sony nó chỉ là 1 nhánh giữ copyright của RighRound thôi, làm gì mà to mồm thế, càng nói tới càng bực
Bài này hay thật, thấy hay hơn cả bản gốc (có lẽ do mình ko hiểu tiếng Hàn :P)
Sao con Bảo Thy không chết đi cho đẹp trời nhỉ, nghe nói Lenka sắp qua VN nên chắc cũng có vài trò vui để xem rồi đây:-*
Bài Hreatbreaker trên hay quá
Ờ thì nếu kiện thắng thì sẽ đc nhiều thứ , tội gì ko kiện . Ở Mỹ , thằng ăn trộm còn kiện được chủ nhà cơ mà
Dãn cách tên bằng dấu phẩy(,).