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  1. Hank Williams

    Hank Williams Mayor of SimCity Lão Làng GVN

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    Grunge? Maybe, but I read it from a magazine, it read that in 80s, Nirvana was the starters of Alternative Rock, it means Punk or Grunge (I don't know clearly) transformed into Alternative.
    "xí"? Haha, it's funny, but have you guys ever heard the mexican talking English in their way? I heard they often use "Sí" before they wanna speak :D.
    U2 and Sting? Not really, all I can tell you at this time is "I just like 1 song of each band". Sting: Every Breath You Take, and U2: Can't Live without You (or some name I can't remember). Seems like Sting has gone too far in his songs, everytime I listen to one of his songs, I often see the Buddha appears somewhere :). And U2? Haha, it's a little funny, I feel really hard to listen clearly what the hell are they singing about? :D
    Eminem? I like him, he makes me remember I white guy in the past, he's Vanilla Ice, a cool white rapper that I've never seen before :).
     
  2. Guo Jia

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    Uh,all of you seem like English song but forgot Vietnamese songs.
    So now I want to talk something about our country music.
    Yes,our classic songs are one of my favourites.Have you ever heard a song like "Đi tìm người hát câu lý thương nhau","Lá xanh","Chào em cô gái Lam Hồng" or "Người ơi người ở đừng về"?
    All of them make me recognize that our songs are also wonderful.They describle our past loves.That loves which I can not see in our nowaday songs were too pure and intense.I like them much.
    In all musicians then Phan Huỳnh Điểu have impressed me the best.
    His immortal love songs like "Thơ tình cuối mùa thu","Anh ở đầu sông,em cuối sông","Vàm cỏ đông"...all are really great.They filled with eager and deep love.When I'm hearing them my soul have great feelings.Sometime my troubles have been taken away by that.
    I like Trần Tiến too.His songs are something romantic,antiilliteracy.I always feel my soul flying and come back my country sides when hearing his songs.With "Sao em nỡ vội lấy chồng" or "Chị tôi",Trần Tiến have became musician of country side.
    Besides that,Hoàng Việt is a great musician.His songs like forever love song "Tình Ca",or "Nhạc rừng" are really too pure.Hoàng Việt is one of musicians who combined deep love and strong country love that nowaday songs can not reach.And I want to say about "Nhạc rừng" a little."Nhạc rừng" is a song which Hoàng Việt composed in one case that he went into forest and feeling about pleasant silience.And then he created "Nhạc rừng",with bird-sings,springs babble...
    And nowaday,in all of young singers I only like Quang Dũng and Thư Lê.Because when hearing their songs,I'm really impressed.Both of them have good voice,and almost song lyrics they sang were not nonsense words.
    Do you know them?
    Yes,all things I talked before are only my love for our country songs.
     
  3. Cigar

    Cigar Độc Xà Vương

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    Every breath you take??it was the thinking of the police when he find the criminal,right??And in my opinion..it's the warning from the police to the criminal..when they undetrsatnd that..they will not harm their victim;x:x
    Hey mụn i heard that you not come here anymore..it makes me feel sad,but good luck to you...althought we never meet together..never talk together..but i will remember you as my very close friend..good bye.
    About Vietnamese song...you right...it was "nhac khang chien" and from those great notes and vocals...we could wrote the freat history by ourselves,we pass the trouble and find the last victory:x:x
    I like the song:Fade to black,wrote by Metallica..although the song was very sad(the man going to suicide:(() but the guitar intro was very solf.
    hank I regret that you never hared of that..please try to find the album:ride the lightning..and you will know how great mettalica was(they are thrash band,not ballad:)))
     
  4. Guo Jia

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    Ok,dear Cigar and hank,Now besides English Songs,I often listen to Vietnamese Classic Songs,They relax me much...

    Hank,You talked about Sting,but I don't know much about that singer.Would you mind tell me something about him?

    Cigar,I agreed,I like any song with good rhythm of guitar.I have regreted that I have not learned Guitar Playing when I have a chance. :((

    Ah,I shall not join front of "HVĐ" forums only because of my boring but I'm still playing games and in here,English forums, we can talk together more...OK?
     
  5. Hank Williams

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    Of course, I try and try to find an album of Metallica, man. Actually I have a Metallica's double CD for my own, it's a collection double-CD (I guess you know this for sure, 'cause it's almost lying in every CD Shop).

    Sting used to be a member of Police-an English band. He's had 3 songs that brightened up his name, they're: "Every Breath You Take", "Fragile", and "English Man in New York". I used to like him a lot, but now he's put underground :D. His nowaday songs have many images of Buddha, you know, these songs always make me sick :D. Now that I hate him.
     
  6. Cigar

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    How sad I was +_+...you betray all your promise for me and for Oath Garden,hmmm...sometimes I feel tired and I see I lack of knowledge...but a lots of my friend still here,and I can't give it up easy like you,may be I must find the library and improve my knowledge.
    You can do everything you want,boy..I not force you to do anything..but I..I will try to make it more beautiful,I can't let it go down like it.
    You see,I not have alot of times like before...but I must cost my little time to talk here,and everyone there.
    How disappoint I am:((
    Sorry,Hank..was that talking have the private property???
     
  7. Cigar

    Cigar Độc Xà Vương

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    I forget to tell you that...please look in my poet before you post anything..that's all+________________________________________+ I belive in yỏu poet..but I see I was wrong+__________+
     
  8. lemoney

    lemoney T.E.T.Я.I.S

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    I think that list I’ve heard from 1 singer…She’s Thu Hiền people’s artist..right ? But “Lá xanh”…I’m not sure she sang it :-?...That’s all great songs and contain traditional harmony…but you know ! I’m just 20 years old and too young, speaking some ways…I rarely have chance to hear those much...just by TV or some musical game shows as “Trò chơi âm nhạc”…but I truly care it.


    Yeah! How interesting!..me too. May I call them by Sir… Sir. Phan Huỳnh Điểu also impressed me with “Hai đầu nỗi nhớ”…one of the songs have very short lyrics…I remembered someone told this song had written 50 years ago..but we who young guys can feel pretty emotions on one’s past. It’s so beautyful…

    Có khoảng không gian nào đo chiều dài nỗi nhớ
    Có khoảng mênh mông nào sâu thẳm hơn tình thương
    Ở đâu đây nỗi nhớ anh mơ về bên em
    Ngôi sao như xuống thấp cho ta gần nhau thêm
    Đêm nghe tiếng mưa rơi, đêm mây chiều nhạt rồi
    Mà chưa vơi nỗi nhớ
    Ở đâu đây nỗi nhớ, yêu và thương sâu hơn
    Ở đâu đây nỗi nhớ, nghĩa tình đằm thắm hơn


    Is it right ? I’m not sure …:p. Trần Tiến, Hoàng Hiệp, Trần Long Ẩn who songwriters I really like. You can feel the meaningful in “Một đời người một rừng cây” of Sir. Trần Long Ẩn….The romanticism of love in Sir. Trần Tiến’s songs you listed…The deep country love in Sir. Hoàng Hiệp’s songs..he also had two great songs for his two fatherlands: Hà Nội and Hồ Chí Minh…he he Do all you know ? Unfortunately, Hoàng Việt whom I knew from musical game shows or some musical programs but that not impressed me more with his songs...maybe I didn’t remember #-o.

    And I also love Southern folk songs, Southern melodies and so forth as “Chiếc áo bà ba”…Do you know Sir Bắc Sơn or Vũ Đức Sao Biển (his nick) who is not only a songwriter but also a law journalist ? Have you ever hear “Điệu buồn phương Nam”, “Bông điên điển”, “Còn thương rau đắng mọc sau hè” …nice songs…I love them :>.

    And nowaday, a famous young songwriter that we’ve heard and I care…that is Nguyễn Nhất Huy with “Chồng xa” or “Thương người dưng” …or his friends in KTX band as Quốc An and Hoài An whom I had admired…but I think they two are sweeping with the music which is called “Nhạc thị trường”…I feel less sorry about that..Correct me if I was wrong.

    More and more great songwriters..but I can’t remember and list now…How could we describe the emotions of those great songs by English ?...It’s really difficult, isn’t it ?

    I know them…but I don’t like Thư Lê singer and I think no more people who know her. She is a daugter of a famous television director in Ho Chi Minh City who name Nguyễn Cường…right ? I’m not sure about the exactly name. She do not impress me much. Which songs did she sing make you like ? beauty spot :>

    Quang Dũng is just known in recent times with Trịnh’s songs, he has good baritone voice to impress us easily…but It’s premature in commenting on him I think…

    Wow…I’m too tired now….I think I should sleep now he he…see you in next time. And correct me if I had something wrong…
     
  9. Guo Jia

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    Most impressive,lemoney!!!

    You really made me suprise,lemoney!!!

    It's praise-worthy to a young man who have known and enjoyed our country classic songs,like you...

    Yeah,maybe only two of us like them,but that is better than only one,ok dear lemoney?
    I most agreed with all things you talked about Phan Huỳnh Điểu,Trần Tiến...But about Thư Lê,I don't know why you don't like her.

    You asked me which song she sang made me like her,then now I answer you that she sang a song written by Trần Tiến,"Tóc gió thôi bay".

    "Chiều mưa có một người con gái nhớ quê xa vời vợi
    Dòng sông,giấc mơ xưa một thời thiếu nữ buồn trôi...
    Tuổi thơ nay đã xa,người xưa xa cách xa
    Còn đâu bóng quê nhà trong chiều xa vắng..."
    (...not sure ab lyrics :p)

    I don't think any singer else sing that song more perfectly than Thư Lê.
    If you listened her singing it,you would agree with me,I'm sure.

    And have a song named "Dấu yêu",Have you ever heard it?Sometimes it's on TV(VTV or BTV).

    And Quang Dũng,the song which is sung by him is impressed me much named "Còn ta với nồng nàn"...It's on "VTV bài hát tôi yêu".

    "Em ngoan ơi,đến nơi này
    Gọi gió về cho lá bay..."


    In "Còn ta với nồng nàn",How great the sound of violon is!...And video clip too.All thing I want to talk about it is "Wonderful".....
     
  10. lemoney

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    I think I saw she had sung that song in musical program ? She sang good but not best I think…I remember other singer sang that better than Thư Lê but a male singer…I can’t remember his name.
    On the other hand, I think Trần Tiến so “ngẫu hứng” in all his songs. The words he used in so natural. Maybe it’s not more beautyful and fussy than Trịnh’s love songs but romantic than …right ?

    I’m sorry …I don’t like that song much

    This video clip also impressed me…blue background with nice stuffs…one of the best video clips in “VTV bài hát tôi yêu” muscal program which I saw. It’s so romantic I mean...but actually I don’t like it much you know…I don’t know why :p.

    Hey…where are you ? So…do you know “Thay lời muốn nói” a musical program of HTV in HCM City ? I like it much…:>.
     
  11. Cigar

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    well,that topic stucked..may be I the first one make it to the wrong way..sorry to every one.
    What do you think about the music in Viet Nam nowaday???I think we have a lot of problem..if we continue improve our music in that way...I think the future will not bright,did I wrong??
     
  12. lemoney

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    Did you mean that talking about Viet Nam music nowaday ?
    Actually, I daren’t say…but this is my opnion:
    - We should have the clement looking to comment.
    - The audience is the best measure for any singers nowaday: “you best mean you be”
    - The trend of modern music is defferent each year.
    - The way you sense different from the sense the younger guys have now.

    And so is VN music. It’s diversified I mean. You can see that in music shows in TV each week in HCM City or somewhere. Many and many “new” singers or bands appeared in those shows: worst, bad, good, best there all…but I think it’s Okay though lot of d**n songs “được nhái lại” from foreign. Things that I could say that’s the way they wear and express the songs, d**n lipsync trend….
     
  13. Cigar

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    We have the bad music entertainment I must say it..no one can deny it.
    Some singer like ****uhm,I don't want to talk about her or his name,they have beautiful outside shape,but their talent is waste for those song..they are really entertainment..not art,I don't like that kind of music..but they must work for they packet.
    It's so difficult to find some singer can become artist in the true meaning.
    Ah,there's the another line of music..they are rock band..I think,they are may be not famous now,but our music in the future can exist because of them..I hope about them very much:x
     
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    Master_Clone_LMHT Youtube Master Race

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    When the smoke is going down -------- > Cigarrete :>
     
  15. Guo Jia

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    ^.^ I agreed with both of you,cigar and lemoney.
    But beside the bad things you have said nowaday we still have some singers whom I estimate highly.They are called "Vietnamese high quality produces" like Quang Dũng or Mỹ Tâm...That's why I only heard Viet classic songs and them.

    Do you mean some bands like "The Wall"?_Yes,I also like them much,but I haven't liked rock +_+,It's makes me crazy,makes my mind become not lighly +_+.

    Ah,cigar,Yỏur current avar is very impressive,You should keep it ^.^.
     
  16. Cigar

    Cigar Độc Xà Vương

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    You feel mad about them??:))I don't think so,it's up to you..but I wonder how can you feel dizzy when you here some song like:duong den dinh vinh quang or Kham Pha???Better give up your bad feeling about them and you will feel better...
    Yep,I will turn to my curent avatar..I feel it pretty too:))..this avatar can makes you dizzy..right??:))
     
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    I beg you not laugh at me,please,please...:))

    "DLDVQ"?I have ever heard it once time on "the way to Olympia"_Yes,it's good at content,lyrics...But even that,I still don't like rock...I never hear the rock songs which almost make me get bad mind,,,"Nhức đầu" :))
     
  18. Cigar

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    I don't think so..when I grow up..I see that I can't hear some sould like"I love you..or you love me"..it's useless.
    I see rock contain alot of meaning in life..in love(may be) and their lyrics difficult to understand
    Never open my self this way
    Life is our we live it our way...
    Well,it makes me cost 2 years:)) to understand what the heck in it:))..we must work for ourselves,no waiting..because no one can exist without work..the way of sucessful not contain the lazy one..ok??
    You feel dizzy about them??I like hard rock..because when I left my bed in the morning..my head is still sleepy..I must find somthing to wake up me in complete:))
     
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    lemoney T.E.T.Я.I.S

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    I heard: Đường đến đỉnh vinh quang on “SV2000”, and “Khám phá” on others. I think they’re pretty good…I also knew “Bức tường” more from “Người đương thời” show on TV….But actually, other VN rock bands I don’t know…

    However, I had had bad bad impressions on VN rock bands since I seen “ Ban nhạc và bạn trẻ” ‘n now that was known as “Nhóm ca và bạn trẻ” in HCM City. I wish you could see they “showed” the way called Rock…The ”Wish band” is the most appropriate example, I think. Poor them! #-o You should see the way they tried to “copy” alternative style in there…they tried to put the rap in Viet rock…sh*t. I felt sick when saw they performed…:)) they think they are Limp Bizkit or Linkin Park…sh*t. you can know what I say if you hear the song name “SEA Games…” ( I forgot)…hic

    And do you know “Trio 666” that a girls band in recent times ?…I don’t know why MC as Anh Tuấn on Tropical MTV and comunications introduced them as the alternative rock band…when my brother asked me why..I really did not how answer :-/…? A girls band sings and dances like that…even in their songs… just organ sounds ‘n electrical sounds in Pop music…the styles fully “copied” from the Atomic Kitten in UK…I don’t understand. Plz correct me if I were wrong…and how’s that ?
     
  20. Hank Williams

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    Infact, Trio 666 has an alternative style. They play alternative but not nu-metal.
    Alternative is a little different from Alternative Rock. I only know this 'cause I'm just a music amateur :p.

    I think all the bullshits such as GMC or someone else like this is just called "group", not called "band" 'cause they only sing and sing, not playing musical instruments while performing. Whadda hell, I'd rather clean all the bathrooms in New World with my tongue than spend just a minute listening to them :(, they make me sick!
     

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